Are you aware that the Received Text (Textus Receptus) is essentially a 16th century Critical Text? Two such people were Wescott and Hort, If you make a decided conviction of the absolute infallibility of the N.T, I fear I could not join you. But the book which has most engaged me is Darwin. It doesnt mean that there arent battles that have to be fought and frauds to be exposed. And More Importantly, Why? The Confessional Position is the exact opposite. Its so well known, its often just called Westcott & Hort. In many ( but not all) cases it's very clearly the Septuagint, because (1) the exact same Greek words are used, in the same order; and (2) where they differ, the Septuagint is being followed. (And many of these variants would be spelling errors. My question is around a possible assumption: The Textus Receptus is not just the half-dozen manuscripts of Erasmus. That makes sense, or at least more sense than applying it to the Bible. It was a printed text, not a hand-copied manuscript, created in the 15th century to fill the need for a textually accurate Greek New Testament. When also, according to another prophetic word, Contempt was poured out upon rulers, and he caused them to wander in an untrodden and pathless way., It was in the nineteenth year of the reign of Diocletian, in the month Dystrus, called March by the Romans, when the feast of the Saviours passion was near at hand, thatroyal edicts were published everywhere, commanding that the churches be leveled to the ground and the Scriptures be destroyed by fire,and ordering that those who held places of honor be degraded, and that the household servants, if they persisted in the profession of Christianity, be deprived of freedom.. However, well only concentrate on the two most influential. I have heard about the NASB2020 and it seems to be like everything else about 2020: extremely disappointing. How can you that claim textual criticism is bad and yet support a document that was created via textual criticism? What Textual Variants? (her is supplied and not in the original but makes it clear that it is the womans head that the symbol is placed upon). Scriveners Textus Receptus is the closest to the Greek text which underlines the KJV. The Confessional Position maintains that God must have perfectly preserved the Bible pure in all ages. Again, Bezas 1598 text formed much but definitely not all of the basis for the KJV. Here is the website Yet the conclusions of Homeric scholarship based on a transmissional-historical approach stand in sharp contrast to those of NT eclecticism: We have to assume that the original was a medium [= vulgate] text The longer texts were gradually shaken out: if there had been free trade in long, medium, and short copies at all periods, it is hard to see how this process could have commenced. Much of what Ive read over the years tends to elevate personal opinion and mud-slinging over an objective summary of the subject. By evidence, I mean quotations from the early church fathers and looking at the versional manuscripts (translations). Repentance is a gift of God that is the sorrow of heart for past sins leading to a change of heart concerning the direction you intend to follow in the future (Acts 5:31; Acts 11:18; Acts 20:21; Acts 26:20; Romans 2:4; II Corinthians 7:10; II Timothy 2:25; II Peter 3:9). Even those who love the manuscript will admit it has serious quality problems. http://www.westernrecorder.org/825.article. ejoice, ye heavens, with him, and let all the angels of God worship him; I will deliver them out of the power of Hades, and will redeem them from death: where is thy penalty, O death? He also was responsible for the publication of Ruth in the Biblia Hebraica Quinta: General Introduction and Megilloth fascicle. The WEB is a revision of the ASV. You will stand and give account for spreading the lies that you and these so-called scholars have preached as the truth. I have only been reading the Bible for a couple months so I probably won't have much use out of the cross-references until I read through a lot. The vast majority of them (mostly 10,000 Vulgate copies) do not affirm the Byzantine text. Those copies were copied, which were copied, which were copied, which were. For our purposes here, the term textus receptus means the 1550 edition of the Greek New Testament published by Robertus Stephanus. The Elzevir 1633 text promised just that in their marketing. I started with a NKJV, then last 10 years or so a NASB. 111:7-8; Isaiah 40:8; Psalm 117:2; Psalm 119:152; Psalm 119:160). Seems to me like the evolutionists who take a few bones they find and build a whole monkey-man out of them, claiming they disproved creation. Its get clearer in a few verses, and even clearer when you read 1 Peter 1. Regardless of what you might say, you live in a very limited context and are influenced by the small sphere that you live in, therefore, I would stand with God and His Word no matter what you might see in this present time. Textus receptus vs alexandrian text. Origen, the Alexandrian church father in the early third century, said: Origen is of course speaking of the manuscripts of his location, Alexandria, Egypt. Thanks again, giving honor where honor is due. 13 For great is Thy mercy toward me: and Thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell. The following is a quote from the (excellent) blog The Text of the Gospels, doing a comparison of Westcott & Horts original 1881 text (WH1881) to the modern NA27 (Nestle-Aland 27th edition) and NA28. I use a couple of versions as my preferred reading bibles (one from each side of the debate), but through the blessing of computers and powerful mobile devices, regularly reference many English and Greek editions. We can be assured that we have not had to depend on the latest discoveries of the oldest manuscripts, or on the efforts of fallible man to uncover Gods words. They have thrown the baby out with the wash. Look at your own readers. By an Alexandrian Church fathers own admission, manuscripts in Alexandria by 200 AD were already corrupt. Now that we know what Greek text the Confessional Position uses, lets take a closer look at the various scriptural passages they use to support the doctrine of Preservation (which says God kept His Scriptures pure in all ages). Theres no other evidence for this so take with a grain of salt but they are the only two manuscripts that share that characteristic. Thank you for this, I learned a lot. A constantly maintained familiarity with New Testament manuscripts themselves is the best training for textual criticism. My issue is with what I feel, based on your obvious biblical knowledge and intelligence, is a purposeful ignoring of the Holy Ghosts practice of making statements that have multiple and equally valid applications or truths when dealing with passages on the word words and Christ. WoW! I challenge you to study this more in depth, and I think you will come to the conclusion that the 5,000 plus manuscripts that we have today from that period equal less than 1% of Bibles used by the church. The fact that they share a unique characteristic makes it more likely they came from the same general area. Im not sure which. The Bible is clear about the Doctrine of Preservation. Each textual family (or text type) tends to contain similar readings to other manuscripts in its family, but the readings are different from the readings of other textual families. (I have articles: the comma belongs, but the Pericope doesnt; though they do include an obelus to indicate doubt on the Pericope, so thats something.). But God is so rich in mercy, and he loved us so much, that even though we were dead because of our sins, he gave us life when he raised Christ from the dead. They both believed that scribes were more likely to add content than remove content. Textual criticism A particular reading signifies one that is most definitely false. The existence of these singular readings disproves the myth of the tenacity of errors completely. The NKJV is definitely closer and also the translation I would generally recommend. The fact of the matter is that the Critical Text of Westcott-Hort differs from the TR, mostly by deletions, in 9,970 words out of 140,521, giving a total of 7% difference. I admire the zeal textual scholars have in combing through myriads of manuscripts in an effort to better understand Gods word. Lets back up to get some context. The way I see it Jesus is the only 100% true word of God and I need to rely on His Holy Spirit to guide me every time I open the Bible. However, the antiquity of these manuscripts is no indication of reliability because a prominent church father in Alexandria testified that manuscripts were already corrupt by the third century. These errors alone account for hundreds of differences between the Alexandrian and Byzantine Text types. Was There a Scribal Preference to Copy Better Manuscripts? Ill freely admit that this article isnt practical for most Christians. (In a footnote, Royse helpfully defines significant singular readings as those singular readings that remain after exclusion of nonsense-readings and orthographic variants.). It does not say anything about it being original. The Reasoned Eclecticism theory created the modern Critical Text (NA28/UBS5), which is what most modern New Testaments are based on. Among the existing manuscripts of the New Testament, there are three major divisions based on their content. So, some information first. My goal in writing it was two-fold. You said applying verses 10 to male authority doesnt make sense, but it makes perfect sense. Could it be that the vision was but a vision, and the glory of the Face but a reflection of the ardent hopes of youth? And gently lead those who are with young. (almost perfect, and with small changes in word order for improved readability): But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressionsit is by grace you have been saved. It is regarded as the oldest extant (existing) Greek copy of the Bible, and has been dated the early-mid 4th century. It would be difficult to entrust our salvation in Jesus Christ to the very same God who could not keep His Word pure. (Or that other manuscripts were destroyed, which well look at more in a minute.). Your article referring back to the early church fathers is especially important. I have strong views on some scripture that I share with very few. Kategorie. In fact, the primary author/editor of the modern Critical Text (Kurt Aland) said this: B is by far the most significant of the uncials Kurt Aland, Source: The Text of the New Testament By Aland, (Note: Uncials is the plural of uncial, which refers to an all capital font. The Textus Receptus (Latin for "Received Text") is a Greek New Testament that provided the textual base for the vernacular translations of the Reformation Period. Now, that could be a good thing if you believe Westcott & Hort did a good job originally. Codex Alexandrius is the third oldest (nearly) complete manuscript, dating from the early 400s. However, this can be easily disproved using common sense and touch of data. The Textual Variants between them are numerous. Because Im So God can point to us in all future ages as examples of the incredible wealth of his grace and kindness toward us, as shown in all he has done for us who are united with Christ Jesus. No scribal duties for me. I should say that Im also extremely thankful that, unlike the masses throughout history, the average Joe (or Josephine) has access ready access to multiple versions and original texts. From that point forward, the Roman Catholic Church preferred to keep their manuscript tradition in Latin rather than Greek. However, theyre worth noting. 19. which is every-thing in red. No Scholar . A translation based on the official text of the Ecumenical Patriachate of Constantinople. I especially loved that you point out that this is a less than 1% issue that affects no essential Christian doctrine, even as Bart Ehrman has admitted. The mistakes which the original transcriber made are of perpetual recurrence. Amen! This author is completely unaware of any proof that scribes preferred to add rather than subtract. He proposed an approach which he calls Equitable Eclecticism which he explained in two articles. the KJV] was not translated from any one printed edition of the Greek text. However, that doesnt mean it was a good thing. Its over 90% intact/complete, which is incredible for a manuscript of its age. Often, one scribe would read while several other scribes copied. It may even be knowable which manuscript, but I personally dont know. The differences between the two texts are many and important. Again, it takes its name from a confession of faith. The Septuagint is claimed to have been translated between 285-246 BC during the reign of Ptolemy II Philadelphus of Alexandria, Egypt. Up until then, the original NIV was my Bible. Here is an excellent definition of Textual Criticism from Dan Wallace, who is one of the most respected Textual Critics in the world today. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Eminent scholars such as E. C. Colwell, G. D. Kilpatrick, and Kurt and Barbara Aland maintained, respectively, that The overwhelming majority of readings, almost all variants, and practically all the substantive variants in the text of the New Testament existed before the year 200. I believe it has something to do with age and heredity. (Dont ask how much re-writing that took.). These two codices Codex Vaticanus (B) and Codex Sinaiticus () are the foundation for nearly all modern New Testaments. 8 The grass withers, the flower fades, Be careful my friend. This is especially interesting because they also said the Antiochian (Byzantine) text was the dominant text in the second half of the 4th century (the later 300s). He wrote a long rebuttal of the Majority Text entitled: The Majority Text and the Original Text: Are They Identical? That appears to be the standard go to article for rebutting the Majority text. The Confessional view holds that God must have preserved the scriptures completely without error. Your treating of the KJV reveals you have little concern for text and more concern for your understanding. His work was largely ignored during his lifetime but the English Standard Version largely agrees with his translation. Jesus is not the word in John 1 1 because he is not God and he is not creator because of Isaiah 44 24. We have four nearly complete Uncial manuscripts dating from before the year 1000. Im finished. The Textus Receptus is a 16th century Greek New Testament on which the King James Bible is based (in the New Testament). However important the early papyri, or a particular uncial, or a minuscule may be, there is no single manuscript or group or manuscripts that can be followed mechanically, even though certain combinations of witnesses may deserve a greater degree of confidence than others. However, the Alexandrian text type is 200 years older. If so, it opens up a new period. Its interesting that these are the men who constructed the corrupt text from which the NASB is produced. A sad fact of history is that when Christians are persecuted, copies of the Bible are usually caught in the crossfire. (In most cases, more on that in a minute). Ive been running a WEB/ASV parallel Bible and the WEB cleverly updates the ASV, without sacrificing accuracy. Quoted from biblemegasite.com. The earliest Septuagint manuscripts are from the 2nd century BC. (Even though it snowed last night and she wouldnt be caught dead outside our apartment in her pajamas) I mean, its possible Right? Manuscripts repeatedly proven to have incorrect readings loose respectability. The Greek word thats translated pass is (parerchomai). 8. Thus, the theory goes that in most any given time span, the readings in a majority of manuscripts are most likely to reflect the original. . God Bless, and venture forth armed with knowledge. Long = characterized by Scribal improvement and expansion. Pauls saying dont be like the women who shave their heads to show they wont be under authority. The covering is a womans long hair (as verse 15 says) and the passage is about women being moraly obligated to be under authority. And, finally, when do you hope to see the church rediscover what you believe they have lost? God has preserved His Word to all generations, without fail! The Doctrine of Preservation of Scripture is the foundation problem that exists with those who question the authority of the Bible. Its currently in its 28th edition (as of spring 2020). 25 But the Word of the Lord (Jesus again) endures forever.. 5. My thought was that the reader, if he had access to a manuscript, could correct anything in our words that differed from those put by the author of this work.. Heres Dan Wallace arguably the most respected New Testament textual critic alive today talking about one of our oldest manuscripts, specifically Codex Alexandrius. I hope that helps. However, we dont have to guess, as Peter under the Holy Spirits inspiration explicitly applied this passage to Jesus. I have gone back and forth myself on this issue. No other early manuscript of the Christian Bible has been so extensively corrected, They range from the alteration of a single letter to the insertion of whole sentences, That gross blunder, whereby a clause is omitted because it happens to end in the same word as the clause preceding, occurs no less than, Vaticanus has 197 particular readings, while Sinaiticus has 443, together with theCodex Sinaiticus, as they have the same, are the only two manuscripts that share that characteristic, the differences among the manuscripts [of the Gospels] have become great. Church historian Timothy George says that Erasmus projects terminus a quo was 1504 when he discovered an ancient manuscript by Lorenzo Valla with notes about Pauls Epistles based on various Greek manuscripts. Literally this means: because of this ought the woman authority to have over the head because of the angels. I would also suggest you look at the Biblehub.com interlinear bible for looking up original words. (You can look at several here.) The TR had the singular in 1550 but was changed to the plural in the 1894 TR. (though Im biased ). They believe that over time good manuscripts will push out bad manuscripts. Co-chairs. Textus Receptus (TR) The Textus Receptus (latin, "Received Text") is the Greek text originally compiled by Erasmus around 1516. He worked for the University of Toronto from 1951 until his retirement in 1984. BUT, it is the expression of a very real concern for Sola Scriptura Christians where can I find the full, complete, and accurate words of God? The consistency is excellent, but we dont know on which manuscripts it was originally based. Further assume you had two manuscripts to choose from when copying. Further, it means all the manuscript findings of the last 140+ years are given very little consideration in modern Bibles. As a result, there are parts of Revelation in the KJV/NKJV not supported by a single Greek manuscript. Clearly, its the judgements that are enduring, not the word. Any form of eclecticism which accepts this principle will hardly succeed in establishing the original text of the New Testament; it will only confirm the view of the text which it presupposes. ); He has not left them to wonder which words are Gods Words. This could be called the common sense side of the Majority Text theory. That one sentence defines a whole doctrine the Confessional Position for millions of Christians. Under ordinary circumstances, they will never be able to outnumber the scribes who tried to be faithful. Something that the TR can not boast nor the modern critical texts. The links in this article will be read later. I find it ironic that these were the two versions that I was drawn to. They do a bit of tap-dancing in their Introduction to the NT indicating theyve taken a different route than Westcott & Hort. However, their original work is still with us. As I said before, I believe languages change over time, and therefore so will the text of Scripture, as demonstrated by our Lords quoting of the OT Scriptures. (Note: Ive copy/pasted the only relevant difference, but you can: Click here to expand the full list of the Aland rules of Textual Criticism. The WEB is the first major translation to use the Majority Text. My biggest gripe with the TR is that it includes the story of the woman caught in adultery, despite the text of the story itself proving that its not scripture. What is your alternative solution then? Since the two best translations on the market (NASB95 and NKJV) differ on their source text, if someone had strong preference for the Critical Text or Texus Receptus, that could be a deciding factor. At what time did they stop having confidence that they knew the text they had was pure? NASB95 and NKJV are the two translations that I recommend, see my article on Bible translations for more detailed info on why. Do specific words even matter, or is it the message that is the most important thing? Some lesser, non-salvation related doctrines are affected, but many of those are arcane topics that rarely if ever touch on the Christian life. So just to make sure Im understanding you correctly it sounds like youre saying its reasonable to ignore whether a word is singular or plural when exegeting the scriptures? (Estienne was also known as Stephanus.) Thank you for all of your hard work and youre opinion and your honesty! Ive rarely received such a nice comment. In the Vulgate, we find over half of the Alexandrian readings. I do think God will preserve scripture, I just cant think of a verse that promises He will. This aspect of Gods preservation of Scripture is just as crucial as the first. So what we have are copies of copies of the original (sometimes many generations of copying deep). I believe God preserved it, Im just dont think the preservation was word-perfect. (And thats not including quotes by including the early church fathers). Again, they differ in ~2000 places. Further, the Bible doesnt live or abide because its a book. David, you start out with a possible assumption and elevate it to obstacles and odds that need to be overcome. Family 35 doesnt include any Uncials and I believe the oldest manuscript in the family is late-ish; early second millennium. We have thereby passed beyond purely numerical relations, and the necessity of examining the genealogy of both minority and majority has become apparent. On which manuscript(s) should we base our translations? Otherwise I really like it. It is no exaggeration to say that Codex Vaticanus (B) and Codex Sinaiticus () are the foundation for virtually all modern New Testament Bible translations. One of the major underpinnings for the Majority Text theory is that scribes will generally choose to copy better manuscripts over worse manuscripts. (It is only by Gods grace that you have been saved!) No Christian doctrine is omitted from the Alexandrian text, but some appear strengthened in the Byzantine text. The Bibles authority is only as great as our confidence in its reliability. That gives you some idea of how many more Bibles must have existed in the world. Follo. As I said, the Lord promised to preserve the Word used by His true church. The Patriarchal Text and the Textus Receptus upon which the King James is based are pretty close most of the time but there are some . My Bible study group were puzzled that the NKJV Bible ends Matthew 20 with an extra sentence which doesnt appear in the more recent translations: God certainly preserved the scriptures through the ages. The original rules set down by Westcott &Hort arent consulted terribly often anymore. The Textus Receptus is Latin for Received Text. The two definitely share similarities, but they definitely arent the same. And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. In English, we have this rule too. Now that we have a basic overview, well look at each theory in (exhaustive) detail. Is this true? I am wondering about your opinion of Wilbur Pickering and his stand on Family 35. But I find your interpretation of Psalms 12, while correct in a literal sense, wrong in a prophetical sense. . BTW, you can read all of Codex Sinaiticus online if you wish at the Codex Sinaiticus Project website. 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